do anyone know how to find the book tareekh e sadat bahera by khan bahadur muzaffar ali khan bahera , jansath . i have its pdf , but in search of hardcopy too
Please make the following corrections in your post as far as the allocation of jagirs are concerned :
1) Tihaanpur,was allocated to Syed Najamuddin,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Jansath.
2)Chatraud, was allocated to Syed Abul Fadail,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Sambhalhera.
3) Kundliwal, was allocated to Syed Daud ,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Mujhera.
4)Jajner,was allocated to *Syed Abul Farash his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Bidauli.
*Syed Abul Farash Jajneri was Mourish e Ala of Sadat e Bilgram and also of Jajneri sadats of Bihar, through his descendants Syed Ahmad Jajneri and Muhammad Jajneri.
Further to be noted there is consensus among historians that Ahmad Jajneri has 4 sons,and existence of his 5th son,i.e **Ali Sher Jajneri ,is disputed.his four sons are:
i) Syed Haider Bagh ,Mourish Aala of, Khan Ghazi Jajneri ( General in emperor Akbar army),Dr Rahman, personal physician to M.A.Jinnah, Maulana Munazir Ahsan Geelani,Sir Sultan ( member Viceroy Executive Council),Barkat Ahmad Tonki,Jawwad Hussain author of" Tareekh Hasan", and myself also.
ii) Syed Jamaluddin,Mourish Aala of , Mufti Enayatullah Mungeri ( one of the compiler of Fatwa e Alamgiri),Syed Nazeer Hussain Muhadith Dehlavi ( Greaest scholar of Ahle Hadith),Mufti Amim ul Ehsan and probably,Imdad Imam ,and his sons Sir Ali Imam,and Hasan Imam.
iii)Syed Burhanuddin ,Mourish Aala of Syed Najm ul Hasan, author of " Ashraf e Arab".
iv)Syed Yusuf
**There was a historical personality named Ali Sher Jajneri who was Mourish Aala of Sher family of Bihar,but it is doubtful,that he was a son of Ahmad Jajneri,as the sher family of Bihar themselves claims to be Rizvi Sadat, and not Zaidi.
Thank you for letting me know. The former mistake is of the book Tazkirah Sadaat e Barha, and I mistakenly included it in my post.
As for the existence of Ali Sher Jajneri as the son of Ahmad Jajneri, it has been proven by genetics. And the claim of the Sher family is well known to be Zaidi in the book Sadaat e Jajneri. The Rizvi claim is a clear forgery, and is not historically existent elsewhere.
If it is proven by genetics,then the case is settled,but pls be informed that '"Sadat e Jajneri" is not a reliable book,as it is very poorly documented and contains many mistakes.
I am also interested in DNA testing,as I have all the relevant documents to prove my ancestory, (including book written by my ancestor,Jawwad Hussain ), could u please let me know from where to do this,as I am currently based in India.
do anyone know how to find the book tareekh e sadat bahera by khan bahadur muzaffar ali khan bahera , jansath . i have its pdf , but in search of hardcopy too
I am a direct descendant of Syed Ahmad Jajneri, and his descendant Hazrat khan Ghazi Jajneri,for my family see following books👇
Reference Book: Tareekh Hasan,Sadat e Jajneri,Ashraf e Arab.
Another prominent Jajneris are:
1)Syed Enayatullah Mungeri died 1099 Hijri( one of the compiler of Fatwa Alamgiri)
2) Shaykh al Kul Fi al Kul Syed Nazeer Hussain Muhadith Dehlavi ( died 13th October 1902, Founder of Ahle Hadith in Indian subcontinent)
3) Syed Barkat Ahmad Tonki ( died 1928,great classical Philosopher and scholar)
4) Sir Ali Imam( died 1932, Legendary Barrister and politician,First Muslim law member of Viceroy Executive Council from 1910 to 1915,later prime minister of Nizam of Hyderabad)*
5) Hasan Imam ( died 1933, Brother of Sir Ali Imam)*
6) Imdad Imam Asar ( died 1934, great scholar and father of Imam Brothers)*
7) Dr Col Abdur Rahman ( died 1955, Member of medical delegation that went to Turkey during Balkan war of 1912-1913,Personal physician to M.A jinnah)
8) Munazir Ahsan Geelani ( died 1956, Great Deobandi scholar)
9) Mufti Ameem ul Ehsan( died 1974, Great Scholar and Imam of Bait ul Mukarram Mosque,Dhaka)
* In some books it is mentioned that although Imdad Imam ,and his sons Sir Ali Imam, and Hasan Imam were Zaidis but not Jajneris.
Thanks alot my dear respected beloved brother Zain rizvi azmi may you live long .
do anyone know how to find the book tareekh e sadat bahera by khan bahadur muzaffar ali khan bahera , jansath . i have its pdf , but in search of hardcopy too
It's difficult to find the hardcopy. You must contact Zaidi sadaat. They may have the book in Muzaffarnagar, Lahore, or Karachi.
I also have the PDF only.
Please could you send me pdf of it
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If you have pdf please send
I dont have pdf and I'm not getting it anywhere, please send its pdf to my email - abbasbilal534@gmail.com
Please make the following corrections in your post as far as the allocation of jagirs are concerned :
1) Tihaanpur,was allocated to Syed Najamuddin,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Jansath.
2)Chatraud, was allocated to Syed Abul Fadail,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Sambhalhera.
3) Kundliwal, was allocated to Syed Daud ,his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Mujhera.
4)Jajner,was allocated to *Syed Abul Farash his descendants chief town in Muzaffarnagar was Bidauli.
*Syed Abul Farash Jajneri was Mourish e Ala of Sadat e Bilgram and also of Jajneri sadats of Bihar, through his descendants Syed Ahmad Jajneri and Muhammad Jajneri.
Further to be noted there is consensus among historians that Ahmad Jajneri has 4 sons,and existence of his 5th son,i.e **Ali Sher Jajneri ,is disputed.his four sons are:
i) Syed Haider Bagh ,Mourish Aala of, Khan Ghazi Jajneri ( General in emperor Akbar army),Dr Rahman, personal physician to M.A.Jinnah, Maulana Munazir Ahsan Geelani,Sir Sultan ( member Viceroy Executive Council),Barkat Ahmad Tonki,Jawwad Hussain author of" Tareekh Hasan", and myself also.
ii) Syed Jamaluddin,Mourish Aala of , Mufti Enayatullah Mungeri ( one of the compiler of Fatwa e Alamgiri),Syed Nazeer Hussain Muhadith Dehlavi ( Greaest scholar of Ahle Hadith),Mufti Amim ul Ehsan and probably,Imdad Imam ,and his sons Sir Ali Imam,and Hasan Imam.
iii)Syed Burhanuddin ,Mourish Aala of Syed Najm ul Hasan, author of " Ashraf e Arab".
iv)Syed Yusuf
**There was a historical personality named Ali Sher Jajneri who was Mourish Aala of Sher family of Bihar,but it is doubtful,that he was a son of Ahmad Jajneri,as the sher family of Bihar themselves claims to be Rizvi Sadat, and not Zaidi.
Allah knows best.
Thank you for letting me know. The former mistake is of the book Tazkirah Sadaat e Barha, and I mistakenly included it in my post.
As for the existence of Ali Sher Jajneri as the son of Ahmad Jajneri, it has been proven by genetics. And the claim of the Sher family is well known to be Zaidi in the book Sadaat e Jajneri. The Rizvi claim is a clear forgery, and is not historically existent elsewhere.
If it is proven by genetics,then the case is settled,but pls be informed that '"Sadat e Jajneri" is not a reliable book,as it is very poorly documented and contains many mistakes.
I am also interested in DNA testing,as I have all the relevant documents to prove my ancestory, (including book written by my ancestor,Jawwad Hussain ), could u please let me know from where to do this,as I am currently based in India.
Kind regards .
do anyone know how to find the book tareekh e sadat bahera by khan bahadur muzaffar ali khan bahera , jansath . i have its pdf , but in search of hardcopy too
I am a direct descendant of Syed Ahmad Jajneri, and his descendant Hazrat khan Ghazi Jajneri,for my family see following books👇
Reference Book: Tareekh Hasan,Sadat e Jajneri,Ashraf e Arab.
Another prominent Jajneris are:
1)Syed Enayatullah Mungeri died 1099 Hijri( one of the compiler of Fatwa Alamgiri)
2) Shaykh al Kul Fi al Kul Syed Nazeer Hussain Muhadith Dehlavi ( died 13th October 1902, Founder of Ahle Hadith in Indian subcontinent)
3) Syed Barkat Ahmad Tonki ( died 1928,great classical Philosopher and scholar)
4) Sir Ali Imam( died 1932, Legendary Barrister and politician,First Muslim law member of Viceroy Executive Council from 1910 to 1915,later prime minister of Nizam of Hyderabad)*
5) Hasan Imam ( died 1933, Brother of Sir Ali Imam)*
6) Imdad Imam Asar ( died 1934, great scholar and father of Imam Brothers)*
7) Dr Col Abdur Rahman ( died 1955, Member of medical delegation that went to Turkey during Balkan war of 1912-1913,Personal physician to M.A jinnah)
8) Munazir Ahsan Geelani ( died 1956, Great Deobandi scholar)
9) Mufti Ameem ul Ehsan( died 1974, Great Scholar and Imam of Bait ul Mukarram Mosque,Dhaka)
* In some books it is mentioned that although Imdad Imam ,and his sons Sir Ali Imam, and Hasan Imam were Zaidis but not Jajneris.
Thank you for the information
Imdad Imam Asar was the relative and childhood friend of my father's maternal grandfather, Sayyid Akhter Imam(who's apparently a Rizvi).