Admixture and DATES analysis of UP-Bihar Syeds
Applying multiple methods for crowd-sourced data analysis
Recent Findings and the FTDNA Banu Hashim Project
Recent findings from the FTDNA Banu Hashim haplogroup project strongly hint that J-L859 is the best contender haplogroup for direct patrilineal relationship with Banu Hashim tribe. We identified several South Asian samples within this haplogroup tree. By examining the TMRCA of the South Asian J-L859 samples, we estimate that some of these migrations likely occurred around 800 years ago.
**TMRCA for haplogroup J-Y225178 on yFull
In this blog, our focus will be on the autosomal impact of these migrations on South Asia. We collected samples from Syeds living in regions close to where these J-L859 haplogroups were identified, with the goal of determining whether any traceable West Asian genetic impact, possibly resulting from historical intermarriage, could be detected.
Big disclaimer: admixture can’t prove someone to be a Syed. It depends more on Haplogroup or your family history
Our crowdsourced Dataset
For this study, we gathered 21 crowd-sourced samples from Uttar Pradesh (UP) and Bihar in the Central Plains region of India. The raw data originated from one of four sources: 23andMe, Ancestry, FTDNA, or WGS. Approximately 25% of these crowd sourced samples tested positive for the J-L859 mutation, though there is some sample bias as these participants were more willing to share their data.
Most UP Syed samples were Shia, while nearly all Bihari Syed samples were Sunni, primarily from South Bihar. We will keep the data anonymous and refrain from disclosing any identifying information.
Methods
To ensure the robustness of our findings, we triangulated our analysis using several methods: 1) qpAdm group runs, 2) qpAdm individual models, 3) DATE admixture model, 4) PCA plots, 5) Y-haplogroup distribution and 6) commercial G25 models. If the migration story is traceable, we believe all these different models should converge, corroborating one another in a nice manner.
qpAdm Group Runs
For the autosomal admixture analysis, we used the qpAdm tool developed by Reich Lab at Harvard, a frequentist admixture tool extensively used by various research labs (e.g., Harney et al., "Assessing the performance of qpAdm") and used in published studies (e.g., Narasimhan et al The Formation of Human Populations in South and Central Asia).
A qpAdm model requires two sets of populations: "right" populations (reference populations) and "left" populations (those used to build the model). We chose right populations commonly used in studies of South Asian ancestry. Many of the left and right populations are available in the Reich Lab’s 1240k dataset.
Most South Asians, particularly Indians, can be modeled using three primary components: 1) South Asian Hunter-Gatherers (also referred to as AASI), the region’s ancient inhabitants, 2) Indus N Ancestry, which mixed with the Hunter-Gatherers 5,000–7,000 years ago, contributing to the Indus Valley Civilization, and 3) Steppe Hunter-Gatherers, who brought Indo-European languages to South Asia around 3,500 years ago (1500 BCE to 500 BCE).
Our goal with admixture model, was to assess whether Syeds of Indian origin possess a distinct fourth component indicative of West Asian ancestry. We tested this hypothesis using several proxy populations from West Asia, including Lebanon_Medieval.SG, Iran_Hasanlu_IA, and Syria_Tell_Qarassa_Umayyad.
To ensure accuracy, we monitored the total number of SNPs and sample sizes, as low SNP counts or small sample sizes can produce misleading results (Harney et al).
Figures 1 and 2 illustrate the qpAdm group runs using 5 and 6 samples for UP and Bihari Syeds, respectively. The valid SNP counts were 640k and 417k, which provide strong coverage from the Reich dataset.
We observed detectable amounts of West Asian ancestry, using Iran_Hasanlu_IA as proxy sample. The model passed successfully with both groups with about 15% West Asian admixture. (p value 0.05 and low std errors).
We also did many individual sample runs with different West Asian samples ( Syria Tell Qarassa, Lebanon Medieval and Iran_Hasanlu_IA). The results in figure 3 & 5, show that most of these samples have on an average of 5-6 % detectable Syrian Tell Qarassa type ancestry among others.
Date of West Asian admixture
We aimed to determine when Syed migrants from West Asia intermarried with local South Asian populations. To do this, we utilized the DATES software tool developed by Moorjani Lab, a tool widely used and validated in various research publications.
Since almost all South Asians have Iran Farmer-type ancestry dating back 5,000–7,000 years, it was crucial for us to ensure that the West Asian admixture dates for Syeds fell within the Medieval period (1000 AD to 1800 AD), corresponding to the Islamic Age in South Asia.
A DATES model is considered valid if it meets the following criteria: Z-value > 2, nrmsd < 0.7, smoothness of the graph, and the mean date ± 2 standard errors is a valid date range. Our model passed these thresholds, yielding a mean date of admixture of 1363 AD, with a 95% confidence interval ranging from 1065 AD to 1660 AD.
Interestingly, these admixture dates align with historical accounts of the expansion of the Delhi Sultanate in the plains, as well as the Y-haplogroup TMRCA calculation for South Asian Syeds. Early Islamic migrations began around 1030 AD with the Ghaznavid Sultanates, and this wave of movement continued until the decline of the Mughal Empire in the late 17th century.
Cross-checking using a PCA plot
We aimed to see how Syeds from UP-Bihar compared to their Indian geographical neighbours (Brahmins, Bhumihars, Kayasthas, Kshatriya, Kols) on a 2D PCA plot.
The results showed that the Syed cluster was pulled away from their geographical neighbours, shifting towards the West Asian group in the upper right corner, near populations like Levantines, Iraqis, and Saudis. In contrast, Brahmin groups, due to their high Steppe (Indo-European) ancestry, were pulled downward toward other high Steppe groups like Tajiks and Pashtuns. Interestingly, Knanaya Christians, a group known for their Assyrian origins (with about 10-15% West Asian admixture and no Steppe ancestry), were also pulled towards the top right, away from the other Indian groups.


Generic Distribution of Haplogroups in the Non-Sampled Dataset
The reader might be curious about the general haplogroup distribution within this population. A randomly sampled distribution from one UP-Bihar Syed family looked like this, and could serve as a rough proxy for a broader, more generalized distribution:
Some Commercial G25 Model Results
While I don’t endorse any particular company, I find it useful to reference some commercial results to demonstrate that they align with our qpAdm models. These G25-based models consistently detect around 5-10% Iraqi, Levantine, or West Iranian admixture, reinforcing the findings of our analysis. For any data science enthusiast, this convergence of results from multiple methods and approaches is a clear validation of our work—showing that different techniques point to the same underlying genetic story.
Future work
Based on our experience working with 21 samples, the results looked interesting in one way or the other. We are very interested in expanding our crowd-sourced experiment. If you belong to one of these South-Asian Syed families, we encourage you to take a test from one of the take home services, or reach out to our friends at South Asian Syed Y-DNA Study for any help.
References
Narasimhan et al The Formation of Human Populations in South and Central Asia
Chintalapati et al The spatiotemporal patterns of major human admixture events during the European Holocene
Sample qpAdm output for right and left populations used, and setup example:
It's a pretty good post.
Did you take any samples from Patna?, as it seems to have been the capital of the region of Bihar for a long time, and there have been Arab and Sayyid communities living there for centuries who came to Bihar after the conquest of Bihar by the Tughluqs to spread Islam.
Phulwari Sharif is one such example, as there's a community there claiming to be Zaynabids and there lineage seems quite accurate according to the books of the Ansab as well. Their ancestor is Amir 'Ataullah Shah Zaynabi who came to Bihar due to riots in Delhi. He was an Amir of the Suri Sultanate as well as that of Humayun.
Maner Sharif is yet another. There's also the famous clan of Imam Taj Faqih Al-Hashimi who's great-grandson Sharf Ad-Din Yahya Maneri is perhaps the most famous Firdousia Suhrawrdiya Sufi saint. They claim to be descendants of Zubayr ibn 'Abd Al-Muttalib. He's technically credited for the start of Islam in Bihar. He was either from Hebron or Jerusalem. Now we know that the Banu Muttalib(the clan to which Imam Shafi'i belonged to)(sister clan of the Banu Hashim) had settled in Palestine.
There's also the family of Adam Sufi and Muzaffar Shams Balkhi who both have their origins in Balkh and are claimants of being descendants of 'Ali Al-Asghar ibn Imam Zayn Al-'Abidin. Apparently, descendants of Qasim, who's the great-grandson of 'Ali Al-Asghar were found in Balkh according to the Books of the Ansab. As Bihar and Afghanistan already have a long connection with regards to Sher Shah Suri and other Afghans seeking refuge in Bihar during the different Delhi Sultanates.
There's also the family of Shams Ad-Din Mashhadi who's brother Salah Ad-Din is the ancestor to the Safavid Kings.
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There's also the family of Pir Damriya Muhammad Zayn Al-'Abidin Suhrawardi. They are Zaidi Sadat but not from Abul Farah Wasti. His great-great grandfather migrated from Wasit to Delhi. He came to Bihar during the Noorhani dynasty of Bihar which was a leftover of the Delhi Sultanate.
There's also the family of Badr Ad-Din Badr 'Alam Qadri Shahbazpuri who's a descendant of Abul Farah Al-Wasti. who came to Bihar.
There's also the family of Imam Ad-Din Rajgiri Shattari who claim to be descendants of Ibrahim Al-Ghamr.
There's also the family of 'Aleem Ad-Din Gaisu Daraz Nishapuri who claim to be descendants of Muhammad Al-Ma'mun Dibaj ibn Imam Ja'far Sadiq.
There's also the family of Sayyid Ahmed Hamdani Charmposh who's father migrated from Hamdan to Bihar due to the coming of the Mongols. The family claims descent from 'Abd Allah ibn Imam Musa Al-Kazim.
There's another family of Wahid Ad-Din Mashhadi who's father migrated from Mashhad to Delhi. He then came to Bihar during the Tughluqs. The family also claims descent from Zaydi clan.
There's also the family of Shah Shahbaz Muhammad Bhagalpuri. They claim descent from 'Ali Al-'Uraidi ibn Imam Ja'far Sadiq. His father migrated from Kirman, Iran to Bukhara and then from there to India, eventually settling in Bihar.
There's also the family Makhdum Shams Ad-Din Samman Chishti Arouli who's the grandson of Ashraf Abi Talib Sharf Ad-Din Nishapuri who's considered the ancestor to the famous Kintur clan of Uttar Pradesh to which Ayatollah Ruhullah Khomeini and Waris 'Ali Shah belonged to.
He came to Bihar during the Delhi Sultanate. The family of course claims descent from Hamza ibn Imam Musa Al-Kazim.
There are also other communities claiming descent from Husaynids and Hasanids.
Over a span of 500 years(1100s-1600s) around 50-60 Sayyid individuals from different clans came to Bihar, around 40-42 of these individuals' families have recorded complete Shajrah Nasabs.
Keep in mind Sayyids are not numerous in Bihar but rather make up just around 1.16% of the Muslim population of Bihar/Bihari Muslims which is around 290,000+ out of a total of 25 million Muslims.
It would be great if you found more samples from here too. Peace.